Tuesday, May 12, 2009

Fetal Farming Research Ongoing in Animals

I have oft asserted that the embryonic stem cell debate is not the far end of the instrumental use of unborn humans, but the launching pad. Once the principle is established that early embryos can be used as a natural resource, it won't be long until gestated nascent human life is also targeted.


I believe that most bioethicists and biotechnologists know this, but aren't candid about the prospect because of the political harm that would inflict on the brave new world project. For example, in 2002 the Stanford bioethicist Henry T. Greely, who served on a California bioethics board was challenged when he appeared at a neuroethics conference about the commission's recommended 14-day maximum limit for doing research on cloned embryos--which is now California law. As reported in my book Consumer's Guide to a Brave New World, a transcript of the event showed Greely stating that the limit was political and not meant to be permanent:

That qualification was driven, I think it’s fair to say, largely by two things: a very strong desire to have a unanimous report and the fact that it was fairly straightforward albeit very conservative place to stop, at least for now, based on our current state of knowledge. Before cells begin to differentiate in their functions, it seems very hard for anyone to argue that there is the remotest chance that sentience exists in that small ball of cells...But fourteen days was a good, easy, clear stopping point for now, based on our current understanding. We did not mean that fourteen days would always be the limit; that limit could be changed in the future based on new understandings that would likely come from neuroscience. [See, Neuroethics: Mapping the Field: Conference Proceedings, New York, NY The Dana Foundation, 2002), May 13-14.]
And of course, a few bioethicists have already called explicitly for fetal farming.

I bring this up because fetal farming research is ongoing in animals. The latest report involves using embryonic pancreatic tissue--not embryonic stem cells--taken from pigs to treat diabetes in monkeys. From the story:
By transplanting embryonic pancreatic tissue from pigs to monkeys, Israeli researchers report that they were able to reverse the primates' insulin deficiency. The key, the researchers say, is the embryonic tissue's ability to grow into a new pancreas that uses blood vessels from the host animal. The host blood vessels are not subject to the dangerous immune reaction that has always dogged xenotransplants of mature pancreatic material...

In an earlier study, the researchers found evidence that semiformed pancreatic tissue taken from pig embryos at 42 days of gestation appeared to offer the best combination of characteristics for xenotransplantation. According to Reisner, if they're harvested too early, there may not be enough partially differentiated pancreatic cells. But if taken too late, the tissues' ability to grow into a new organ is diminished, perhaps because they contain too few stem cells, while their ability to cause immune rejection increases.
While this study involves inter-species transplantation, it would be far more logical to use tissues from aborted fetuses or even aborted cloned fetuses intentionally generated for the purpose of transplantation to achieve the same end in humans. In this regard, note that it was necessary to wait until the 6th week to harvest the tissue.

If and when an artificial womb is created, and if and when scientists figure out how to clone human beings and gestate them beyond the first few days of development--the apparent current state of the technology--the pressure will be on to permit this research to proceed. And the arguments in its favor will be the same as those made today about ESCR and early human cloning research: A developed embryo or fetus isn't a "person;" the embryo/fetus will never be born so what does it matter; the embryo/fetus value isn't as important as Uncle Charlie whose Parkinson's we can cure," etc.

Believe me, if I get this, so do "the scientists" and their enablers in bioethics and Big Biotech. Indeed, I believe that they have no intention of ever permitting any reasonable permanent ethical parameters to be established that would limit the areas of research where this field can go. (They will sometimes agree to limit that which cannot yet be done technologically, but as Greely's comment reflects, those restrictions are always subject to change.) Moreover, it is worth noting that cloned fetal farming has been explicitly legalized by statute in New Jersey.

Since "the scientists" won 't engage in self restraint, it is and will be up to society to set those standards for them through democratic processes. Of course, if that happens, the next step will be lawsuits filed to establish a constitutional right to conduct scientific research.

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At May 12, 2009 , Blogger victor said...

Give "IT" a rest Victor!

Gee sinner vic, I'm dammed if I speak and dammed if I don't!

Go ahead and say what you want to say but make it short you skitso and keep Jesus out of "IT" cause He's caused enough problems already in this animal world.

Who have you been talking to sinner vic?

Ok! One more sentence Victor and "IT" better be good!

Parallel worlds of good and bad aliens to make sure that we reap what we sow?

I hear ya Wesley! Don’t pay him too much attention folks, he’ll really harmless! :)

 
At May 12, 2009 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm disgusted by the path our scientists are taking, but too confused by the above comment to go any farther.

HUH?

 
At May 12, 2009 , Blogger SAFEpres said...

The idea of experimenting on a developed fetus sickens me. If "the scientists" are so eager to do such research, they should back up their enthusiasm by volunteering to be guinea pigs themselves!

 
At May 13, 2009 , Blogger T E Fine said...

Victor -

I know how you feel. My Id and Superego go head to head about as often as you and sinner vic do. We know he's harmless, so no worries. Thank you for making me smile after reading about the future horrors of modern science.

 
At May 13, 2009 , Blogger T E Fine said...

Wesley -

You know, I don't have anything against animal research when it comes to learning new techniques to heal both people and animals. But this is slippery-slope stuff right there. In this, I'm inclined to agree with Ianthe that nobody should be mucking around in this area of research and development.

First of all, and this is most important, if we start playing with animals like this, we'll be inclined toward playing with people like this. Fetal experiments of animals should be stopped. Sorry, I'm all for research that DOES develop new cures, but there should be limits, even in animal studies.

Second, it's not man's call to play God. We're mucking around with implanting pig bits into monkeys. How long before we try making punkies - pig/monkey hybrids? Or how about cogs - half cat, half dog? How far off will it be before we have a bunch of mogs - Part Man, Part Dog ("I'm my own best friend!") - attending school with our kids?

I say nix it right here before we start going overboard, if we haven't gotten there already.

 
At May 13, 2009 , Blogger victor said...

Thanks for the warm comment again T E Fine and my wife will be happy to know that I'm not the only one in this world with a Super Ego!

Please pray that the angels don't cry tomorrow in Ottawa cause I think that they are on to US!

I think that they think that we think that they want Heaven on Earth all to ourselves.

I hear ya! Stop thinking Victor! :)

God Bless

 
At May 15, 2009 , Blogger Unknown said...

NOW you're worried? After what they've been doing all along, what did you think would happen? It's like I'm talking to my shadow here. If it's unconstitutional (as is a lot of what goes on these days, including re guardianship laws and in the medical establishment), it's not a matter of suing to establish constitutionality, it's a matter of STOPPING it. Human exceptionalism has been on the wrong track the whole time re scientific research and now it doesn't like what it's doing... Well I told you so. Get on the right track and you'll get a lot further re fighting the culture of death.

 

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