Logical Outcome of Assisted Suicide Advocacy: Swiss Suicide Clinic to Aid Healty Woman Kill Herself

I don't know why anyone would be surprised by this story. Assisted suicide advocacy rests on two fundamental ideological premises: First, that we own our bodies and it is the "ultimate civil liberty" to decide on the time, manner, and place of our own demise. Second, that killing is an acceptable answer to the problem of human suffering. Once these values are accepted, preventing death on demand becomes logically unsustainable.
The death on demand agenda is now being openly voiced in Switzerland, by the head of one of that country's suicide clinics. Apparently, the healthy wife of a terminally ill, suicidal husband, wants to die alongside him via assisted suicide. From the story:
The founder of the Swiss assisted-suicide clinic Dignitas revealed plans today to help a healthy wife die alongside her terminally ill husband. Ludwig Minelli described suicide as a "marvellous opportunity" that should not be restricted to the terminally ill or people with severe disabilities...Mr Minelli said that anyone who has "mental capacity" should be allowed to have an assisted suicide, claiming that it would save money for the National Health Service.Clarification time out: When Minelli says "capacity," he means the ability to make a decision and communicate it, not absence of depression or mental illness. His group already won a ruling from the Swiss Supreme Court granting a constitutional right to assisted suicide for the mentally ill. Also, the capacity premise is embodied into the laws in Washington and Oregon that merely require that the suicidal person be "capable," not that they be free from depression.
Back to the story:
He said that he expected to go to the Swiss courts to seek a ruling in the controversial case of a Canadian couple who have asked to die together. "The husband is ill, his partner is not ill but she told us here in my living room that, 'If my husband goes, I would go at the same time with him'," he said.Actually, it is a political tactic, also followed here in the USA to get people used to the idea of suicide as a human right.
Mr Minelli, a human rights lawyer, tells The Report on BBC Radio 4 tonight that the British had an "obsession" with the requirement to be terminally ill. "It is not a condition to have a terminal illness," he said. "Terminal illness is a British obsession.
Cue Minelli:
As a human rights lawyer I am opposed to the idea of paternalism. We do not make decisions for other people. "We should have a nicer attitude to suicide, saying suicide is a very good possibility to escape"Minelli is not a fringe player, he is just more honest then some of his other brethren and sistren in the euthanasia movement. For example, Rita Marker discloses in her book Deadly Compassion, that Derek Humphry and Anne Wickett assisted a joint suicide of Wickett's parents because the father wanted to die and her mother was emotionally incapable of refusing to go too.
Death on demand for anyone with a non transitory desire to die is either the goal of the movement--or, given its ideological premises--is the inevitable ultimate outcome of assisted suicide advocacy. So let's--finally--have an honest debate about this issue: As Lincoln said about America not being able to remain half slave and half free because it would eventually become all one or the other; so too, assisted suicide.


8 Comments:
Just a quick note today...
What effect will assisted suicide have on the economy? I mean, obviously, those who go through with it will have no worries, but what about those who remain behind?
What if the person desires to leave the earth because of economic failure? What if someone owes millions for this or that? Is it then their right to commit suicide? Or is it only right when they've repaid their debts? Will their be an application and permit required before going through with it? What about an audit? What if the person is legitimately depressed AND in catastrophic debt? Does their depression earn them the right to end their life while their debt level is still high?
It's all just plain absurd!
There's my rant. Now off to teach some Greek to some young men who hope, in five or more years, to serve their fellow men and women with the Gospel of Jesus Christ as pastors in his church!
So why doesn't she just commit suicide on her own when her husband dies? going public like this is simply trying to get society to condone what she knows is the coward's way out.
Julie: That's right. "Assisted suicide" for someone who doesn't even need assistance?
This is like being in a funhouse. It's a marvelous opportunity for the person, and (by the way) for the National Health Service? Which is it? The marvelous opportunity comes with birth -- we're all going to have the marvelous opportunity to die one day. What kind of a bogus unnecessary present is this anyway. Coals to Newcastle? I suppose he's tested the marvelous opportunity himself and can vouch for how marvelous it is? Why not? What a bunch of sick creepolas.
I'm glad SHS mentioned what Lincoln said.
As a young woman who struggles with a very difficult learning disorder, who lives with depression on a daily basis, who has lost beloved friends and gone through periods at school and church that were so bad that my family considered moving away, I find Minelli's comments disgusting, offensive, cruel, and deliberately misleading.
In my opinion, helping someone kill himself is the ultimate violation of basic human rights. It abandons the mentally ill, the downtrodden, the poor, the handicapped, and anyone else who is in need of love via intervention. Minelli should be run out of town on a rail as a "human rights" attorney.
After being tarred and feathered.
Gee, I thought the ultimate civil liberty is to live. How simple-minded of me.
An honest debate is very nice, but it can't happen because the other side isn't honest, decent, or logical. Socrates said that when one argues with a fool one is being a fool oneself, and this is analogous to that, in the sense that it would be demeaning, and that it would be foolish to expect the other side to be honest or logical. They aren't worth time talking to, and it only elevates their credibility to an unknowing publlic, just as calling themselves "ethicists" does. They just have to be stopped. Sometimes an assailant or hostage-taker can be dealt with verbally, but this crew is in a whole other category, and words won't work; a cross, said to work on a vampire, won't; they don't turn to stone on being shown the head of Medusa; this takes the immediate unhesitating relentless driving of a stake through the heart. A good quick broadsword to the gut. Decapitation. Pouring gasoline and lighting a match to it. That kind of measure, in non-physical terms. And that's the problem; there don't seem to be other measures available, now that we're "civilized" in a way that permits the barbaric and is unable to combat it. I remember college students I was teaching Latin and Greek asking, re ancient warfare, "Did they really do that? Did they really kill people?" It was mind-boggling; what had they studied of history through high school? (That answers the question; the trend had already come into vogue of teaching "concepts, not facts and dates" and classical language textbooks had started to be done "in a way the kids will like," rather than in a way that teaches what the subject is valuable in teaching.) One could just see their parents signing "living wills" like sheep. When warfare was warfare, there wasn't a Culture of Death.
If scientists are surprised that our forebears cared for their "special needs" offspring (in doing which the scientists are making an assumption that because one skull was found, they did it), then they must think that we have evolved beyond that, which hoists their utilitarian approach on its own petard. Or else they think it's wrong now and that we have moved "past" that.
No, we don't make decisions for other people, we just get them to make "living wills" and think that they have made their own choice, then pull the plug on them whether they've made one or not, with the blessing of the Vatican. How devious and disingenuous. "Human rights lawyer" my foot. How come before these clowns were around "assisted suicide" wasn't an issue, or something people even thought about, let alone wanted, and people didn't have sanctimonious opinions about "end of life"? The whole palliative care, hospice, bioethics, "endoflife," assisted suicide, etc. culture is a deliberate effort TO make choices for other people and dupe them into thinking they are making their own choices. They might as well be P.T. Barnum saying, "There's one born every minute."
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