Friday, March 27, 2009

Resurrecting the "Useless Eater" Approach to Health Care: Don't Let Consciousness Get in the Way of the Dehydration Agenda

So, now that we know that many people thought to be unconscious--are actually awake and aware--some might think that would cause bioethicists to step back from the dehydration agenda. As I have long predicted, not on a bet! An article published in the Journal of Medicine and Philosophy by Oxford bioethicists Guy Kahane and the always crassly utilitarian Julian Saveulescu, makes it clear that demonstrable awareness should be no bar to ending the lives of these disabled patients.

This is a 22 page article, and I obviously can't post it all here, even if there weren't copyright issues. But here is the gist: From their article's abstract:

Neuroimaging studies of brain-damaged patients diagnosed as in the vegetative state suggest that the patients might be conscious. This might seem to raise no new ethical questions given that in related disputes both sides agree that evidence for consciousness gives strong reason to preserve life. We question this assumption... We argue that enjoyment of consciousness might actually give stronger moral reasons not to preserve a patient's life and, indeed, that these might be stronger when patients retain significant cognitive function.
Who are these conscious people who should die? Those in what has come to be called the mimial conscious state. From the body of the article (no link available, my emphasis):
Such patients have, at best, only the most rudimentary desires, and they clearly do not have enough sapience to enjoy most objective goods--the goods of friendship, knowledge, achievement, and the like. Do they at least have experiential interests?...It is, however, plausible to assume that such patients do feel pleasure and pain--that they do have experiential interests...

Would this, in itself, be a reason to keep this patient alive for as long as we can? ... Such a patient clearly benefits from going on living in the sense that this means that, over time, she will enjoy more experiential goods. But this patient does not possess self consciousness or a desire to go on living, and little to no psychological connectedness over time. It is thus not clear that she would be significantly harmed if her life ended earlier than was possible. And, given that, considerations of distributive justice may tell against continuing to sustain the life of such a patient at great cost.
They thus claim that even if Terri Schiavo wasn't in an unconscious state, she was killable:
In the final month of her life, the parents of Terry Schiavo insisted that she was in MCS, not VS. But we have argued that the discovery of consciousness in patients diagnosed as in VS hardly settles the ethical questions on the side of continuing life-sustaining treatment. If the patient is in the MCS, it might rather be that we have no or only weak reasons to sustain her life, and some further positive reasons not to sustain it.
But what about patients who can communicate and are clearly aware, sometimes called the "locked in state?" Their lives are even less worth living because of possible mental anguish!

Kahane and Saveulesku are resurrecting the odious concept of the useless eater. If they get their way, tens of thousands of people around the world will be dehydrated or lethally injected to death.

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At March 27, 2009 , Blogger T E Fine said...

I'd love to know what Julian Saveulescu's religious beliefs are.

It's nothing against his personal beliefs, but here's the thing that I've said over and over again - there's either a God or there isn't, and if there is, we're poised to be smited for murder, and if there isn't, why is condemning a person who is conscious but "locked in" to death somehow preferable to letting them live what little existance he has?Why is the void preferable to at least some consciousness and interaction, even at a minimum?

These people are *so* "1984." They're the inheritors and perfectors of double-think. "There's no God so we have the freedom to do whatever we want without consequence," gets blended in with, "We can kill anybody we want to and condemn them to the void without fear of ourselves getting burned for it."

The man is evil, pure and simple. If he weren't evil, then he wouldn't be suggesting shoving someone off into that undiscovered country with no concern for the victim at all.

 
At March 27, 2009 , Blogger SAFEpres said...

I think that people who want to dehydrate others based on cost should
set a good example by dehydrating themselves first. Disgusting. Blood boiling!!!!!!!!!!!

 
At March 27, 2009 , Blogger Mrs. said...

I am a fairly new reader to SHS and am wondering if you've ever given your readers a taste of the University studies done on the whole 'useless eater' agenda during the Nazi Germany regime. (It's here, if you haven't seen the history of the government's propaganda on this before)

 
At March 27, 2009 , Blogger Don Nelson said...

"Such patients have, at best, only the most rudimentary desires, and they clearly do not have enough sapience to enjoy most objective goods--the goods of friendship, knowledge, achievement, and the like. Do they at least have experiential interests?...It is, however, plausible to assume that such patients do feel pleasure and pain--that they do have experiential interests..."

This quote is pretty self centered. "What makes someone a life worthy of life? Let me look in the mirror." It's a description of them.

 
At March 27, 2009 , Blogger Wesley J. Smith said...

Hi Shannon: Thanks for dropping by.

I haven't here. I have in my books CULURE OF DEATH and FORCED EXIT.

 
At March 28, 2009 , Blogger Unknown said...

Don: Well of course they're self-centered. They were raised as "special" because they were "going to be doctors." Work per se isn't valued, we have a caste system re "success," and that's at the root of the whole problem. How self-centered? They'd say to me that their mother had told them that she wouldn't want to be on life support (how anyone can be sure about that when it's not in their experience is a good question) and they expected that to convince me to follow their agenda. I'd ask them if I was their sister, and they wouldn't even get the logic of it. Because they're just so smart, smarter than everybody else...Baloney.

 
At March 30, 2009 , Blogger Trying2Reason said...

Well I for one would NEVER want to live that way. That is not extending life it is prolonging death.

Take the machines off and stop feeding me. If God wants me to live he will give me a miracle. But if my brain is so damaged that i can't do ANYTHING, then don't call that "living". It is like keeping a corpse alive and trapping the soul in a dead body.

Sorry, I'm not a murderer....this is just my honest perspective.

 
At March 30, 2009 , Blogger Wesley J. Smith said...

Trying2Reason: You miss the point: You have the right to decide that for yourself. But neither you, bioethicists, or doctors should be able to force that choice on other people.

That is a distinction that rational thinkers should be able to comprehend.

Thanks for stopping by.

 
At March 31, 2009 , Blogger Trying2Reason said...

Wesley J. Smith: Well, I didn't actually miss the point. And I am sure most will want to hang me for this.... But since the "government" is paying for the incredible cost to keep these bodies in tact...there does come a point in time when money is not free flowing...where decisions need to be made. Difficult decisions.

No one is telling you that you can't keep someone alive. They are simply saying the government is not going to pay for it.

Now all the pro-socialists will come to realize what socialism is truly about.

I am for free markets and minimal goverment. I would rather keep my money and make my own decision on how to spend it rather than give it to THEM to decide and take away my rights at the same time.

I guess I just don't see it as murder...as many of the comments seemed to suggest.

 
At April 03, 2009 , Blogger Unknown said...

Tryinf2Reason: Keep trying, because you're not there yet. You can say what you would want now, but there is no way for you to know what you will want then, if it ever actually happens, which it does every day, and often to those who were put in that state as the result of medical and hospital negligence. If you'd ever seen such a case and watched a person who is at the mercy of incompetent and arrogant medical staff and hospital administration fight valiantly to stay alive, and be aware despite the hospital's perjurious statements re their condition, all in the context of the point of view you're espousing, you might consider that you, as many others have been and are at this very moment, might be in the position of being aware, wanting, once in the state of "not being able to do anything," to continue to live and breath, and knowing that you are being murdered. One of the fundamental and arrogant errors in your line of reasoning is the assumption -- and the fundamental error in logic is assuming anything at all -- is that one could know now how things will be in the future circumstance under consideration. I've also noticed that those on the side of the culture of death tend to identify themselves and talk in terms of "reason."

 
At April 03, 2009 , Blogger Unknown said...

And they always give themselves away. In this case, "Trying" to reason says on its face that the objective hasn't been achieved. Then there's HW, who is poignant (often they are poignant, and in some cases more dangerous, qua poignant, than others; I don't place HW in the dangerous category, from what I've seen here), who self-defines as writing history. But they always give themseves away, one way or another, and of course they don't realize it.

 
At April 03, 2009 , Blogger Unknown said...

Wesley: Where do those you quote in this blog segment (and those you've done the world the great service of quoting and thus exposing to the light in other blog sections) get the NERVE?

 
At April 03, 2009 , Blogger Unknown said...

AND HOW IS IT THEIR BUSINESS, ANYWAY?

 

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