Ignorant Independent Science Reporter Accuses Others of Ignorance
A science reporter named Steve Connor in the UK, has written a diatribe against opponents of ESCR in the Independent. Part of his critique is an unoriginal cheap shot at the Catholic Church and the issue of ensoulment--which is way beyond our jurisdiction here, and moreover, as far as I know, has not been a major part of the debate anywhere. But then Connor goes on to defend the so-called "14-day rule," which permits embryos to be maintained for 14 days for purposes of experiments. From his column:
The reason why it was decided to allow research on human embryos less than 14 days old was because the ball of cells within the developing embryo that actually becomes the baby--as opposed to the placenta and amniotic sac--does not itself develop until after the 14th day.Again, most of the people who want to argue about ensoulment are advocates who come from Connor's side of the street. It is the instrumental use of human organisms, nascent human beings, that is morally objectionable. And as we have reported here, embryology text books clearly state that human life begins with the completion of fertilization, not after two weeks when the embryo implants or when the primitive streak emerges.
Embryologists call this tissue the "primitive streak" and its non-existence in IVF embryos younger than 14 days old was why the 14-day limit on researching and growing human embryos is enshrined in British law. We can thank the Warnock Committee, which sat more than 20 years ago, for this insight. It has proved a remarkably robust argument against those who hold the view that a human being with a soul begins at conception.
More to the point, Connor gets his science wrong. Some of the cells in the blastocyst--the embryo at about 1 week--do indeed develop into placenta--which is a vital embryonic and fetal organ necessary for its nourishment and development. But some of the cells--remember these are the pluripotent stem cells that are so coveted by scientists because in theory they can become any cell in the body--become the developing baby's liver, skin, blood, etc. They might not have known that 20 years ago when the Warnock Commission sat, but they sure do now.
Moreover, the primitive streak, which is the beginning of the nervous system, is merely the first visible sign of differentiation, that is, the transformation of the preexisting pluripotent stem cells into specific tissue types. But the streak itself is not what becomes the other tissues.
Beyond that, why would the presence of some differentiated cells increase the moral worth of the embryo? It wouldn't, of course. This is just a false line to be used for now to give the masses the illusion of ethical control. But remember, at least for now, human embryos can't be maintained past 10-14 days in the Petri dish. Thus, as we see so often, the 14-day rule is just another example of "the scientists" being willing to prevent only that which cannot yet be accomplished technologically. Besides, we already see advocacy for fetal farming among some bioethicists, as we have pointed out here at SHS.


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"Again, most of the people who want to argue about ensoulment are advocates who come from Connor's side of the street."
Oh, but Wesley, it's such a good smokescreen! I'm surprised he didn't mention anything about quickening, the evil side-kick of the ensoulment argument.
So is the 10-14 limit there because they can't make the embryo go farther than that, or because they think a few more days and shazzam there's a protectable human?
The most frustrating thing about dialoging with people who support these things is that they demand we leave religion out. When we do, then they bring it back in. They say to leave religion out, but they never say that about clerics or other religious people who support this. This is game playing and fraudulent.
People who make these kind of statements are arguing in bad faith, period. If it seems that it might be handy to their pet line of research to destroy human embryos of X age, then out comes the biological Scholasticism explaining in mind-numbing detail why an embryo of X age isn't really "human".
If this fellow heard that embryos at 28 days were what was needed for research, suddenly the "primitive streak" would be meaningless and something would be found after 28 days that was the new "scientific consensus" for when human life started. And when they need 3-month-old fetuses, the goalposts will move again.
Sparkvic: Bingo!
Sorry I haven't been around much - I've been doing the Unemployment Tango all week, and my computer has been set to "Resume Only" for a while.
But, here's the question that I have: How the pit does his argument prove that an embryo doesn't have a consciousness / personal self / soul before Day 14?
It's an out-of-nowhere argument that has nothing to do with anything. Someone arbitrarily said, "At around Day 14 we can tell which cells are baby and which are other, so that's where the cut-off for use is." That proves nothing. And it doesn't disprove the fact that when you put together a sperm and egg, you get a human being.
An embryo is biologically human. It's not a chimp, it's not a bee, it's not a rat, it's a baby human. It has all the DNA a human needs, all the chromosomes, it's a little factory hard at work doing more than I've seen some philosophy professors do - at least I can see an embyo at work when it's dividing and following the written code inside itself.
And yes, it has a written code. The code controls a variety of internal machiens that follow the assembly instructions perfectly to create what we recognize as a human being, but it's nothing different from what our own cells, as adults, are doing.
I've come to the conclusion that people who are pro-embroynic cell experimentation are evil. Flat out, pure and simple, evil. As evil as someone who walks up to you and blows your brains out for the fun of it. As evil as the Zodiac killer, the Green River Killer, as evil as anyone who ever enjoyed someone else's torment. They hide behind self-righteous propoganda but all they care about is getting their way.
How long before people are fighting to perform experiments on two-year-olds? And I'm still waiting for the idiots to start coming out and saying they want to breed clones for body parts so they can experince immortality.
Hey, what the heck is this fascination with immortality anyway? I could see it in a heavenly sense, if you're talking about a perpetual eternal "now" where you're basking in God's love, but these people are by and large atheists or agnostics, so they don't have that kind of vision, therefore it doesn't come into play.
So you have people who are sitting here thinkin, "Either we go into a void or we need to find a way to live forever on the earth as it is now." Hate to say it, but the world as it is, for all its beauty, is terribly flawed. It's pretty boring at times, pretty petty, pretty gross and pretty nasty. Animals eat each other and sometimes human beings. People fight and bicker, they treat each other hatefully, things are frequently going wrong, and let's face it - the folks who want immortality are the ones who can't figure out how to pass the time on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
The only thing I can figure is they're so absolutely terrified of the void that they cherish as the antidote to religion that they will kill anyone who gets between them and living forever.
But they won't come out and admit this in a way that everyone on earth will hear abou it because if they do, then the majority of Americans (being religious in some form or another) will realize both that they're being snubbed and that they'll be the ones expected to provide fresh meat for the immortalists. And that would get the immortalists out of power, whereby they would have no choice but the void.
So the immortalists have to be sneaky, talking down about us religious, but not out on Oprah. And they encourage people to be "bright," that is, to shed religious beliefs in favor of living for the world, because somehow living for the world is better than living for faith.
Wesley, I think you may have misunderstood what Connor was saying. I think by saying 'ball of cells within the developing embryo that actually becomes the baby', he is referring to the ICM (inner cell mass). The ICM does develop (mostly*) into the foetus, while the trophoblast cells external to the ICM develop into the placenta. The ICM is also what is harvested for ESCR.
*some extra-embryonic tissues do develop from the ICM, but the majority of the placenta does not.
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