Tuesday, December 02, 2008

National Health Care on the Way! Well, Maybe Not

They brought it on themselves, the private health insurers. Raising rates, cherry picking, too often trying to game people. So, now with the election of Barack Obama, the LA Times announces that there is a "consensus" to legally implement some form of nationally mandated health insurance. From the story:

After decades of failed efforts to reshape the nation's health care system, a consensus appears to be emerging in Washington about how to achieve the elusive goal of providing medical insurance to all Americans.

The answer, say leading groups of businesses, hospitals, doctors, labor unions and insurance companies--as well as senior lawmakers on Capitol Hill and members of the new Obama administration--is unprecedented government intervention to create a system of universal protection.
Except there really isn't. While our handlers agree that it won't be a Canadian style single payer plan--good--nor a McCain style free market approach, and there will be a need to control costs and guarantee quality--good luck with that--there isn't much else that is agreed upon:
Among the issues to be decided as more concrete proposals emerge in the months ahead is whether the roughly 46 million uninsured people in the U.S. will be pushed to buy private coverage or will be enrolled in a government insurance program, as some consumer groups want.

Hospitals and doctors fear another public program would reduce what they are paid, as Medicare and Medicaid have done. Insurers worry they could lose customers to the government.

Also unresolved is what mechanisms might be created to force individuals or businesses to get insurance, both potentially contentious subjects.

And few have tackled how the government will control costs and set standards of care, proposals that raise the unpopular prospect of federal regulators dictating which doctors Americans can see and what drugs they can take.
As I have written before here at SHS, they are not even tackling the big ones in the story, among which are: Will abortion be covered in the basic coverage that must be provided everyone? Since any government plan will include taxpayer money, expect pro lifers to fight against it tooth and tong. But if it isn't included, the NARAL and Planned Parenthood sector will bellow like an attacking grizzly bear.

And what about illegal aliens? Millions of the 46 million uninsured have no right to be in the USA. Will a mandatory policy cover them also? If so, the bank will definitely break as millions more travel here from around the world to get good health care. Also, there will be a huge fight if the government tries to impose utilitarian and invidiously discriminatory rationing regimens on us, such as based on age or "quality of life."

Then there is the black hole of debt we've incurred in the last month, which it seems to me sinks any ambitious new plan.

And then the judges will want their say.

Consensus? Sure, until you actually try to decide something. But there is some good news: As Secretary of State, at least Hillary won't be involved.

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At December 02, 2008 , Blogger Don Nelson said...

Obamacare is going to cover abortion. Barack Obama’s health care plan will include funding of “reproductive services,” a euphemism that includes abortion. In a speech and comments to Planned Parenthood in January 2007, Obama said, “…we’re going to set up a public plan that all persons and all women can access if they don’t have health insurance. It’ll be a plan that will provide all essential services, including reproductive services…”

Obama’s plan will require private insurers to provide abortion services too. Obama told the same audience, “we also subsidize those who prefer to stay in the private insurance market except that insurers are going to have to abide by the same rules in terms of providing comprehensive care, including reproductive care... So that’s going to be absolutely vital.”

Quotes transcribed by Laura Etcheveria at http://lauraetch.googlepages.com/barackobamabeforeplannedparenthoodaction

 
At December 02, 2008 , Blogger Wesley J. Smith said...

Don: What he wants he may not get. The abortion issue, if mandated as opposed to an optional extra coverage people can purchase, I think would destroy the "consensus." But so too would leaving it out. That's my point.

 
At December 02, 2008 , Blogger Don Nelson said...

I agree with your point. I thought you weren't sure that Obama would want abortion covered.

 
At December 02, 2008 , Blogger padraig said...

A few weeks ago I heard that Obama had gotten Nancy Pelosi to agree that the first stage of national insurance would be to push for coverage of uninsured children. If true I think this is bloody brilliant, because

1) Who will dare fight against insuring children? This may break the impasse.
2) It will set up the national structure on a smaller scale, for a phase-in approach.
3) This cuts the risk that employers currently providing marginal health benefits (one example rhymes with "Gall-Mart") won't drop employee benefits and send all their employees into the federal plan. I doubt they're spending much on dependent coverage anyway.

The last benefit, of course, is that it effectively tables the question of covering abortion.

 
At December 02, 2008 , Blogger Unknown said...

"Reproductive services" means fertility treatment (of which I'm no more a proponent than I am of what Obama really means) if it means anything, and I'd like to see how the proponents of this stuff feel about that instead of what they really mean by it, and how willing they'd be to pay for it. Insurance is what raised the cost of health care in the first place, and people have turned into sheep about it. If people could afford health care they wouldn't feel a need for insurance (which has driven up cost and become a tyranny). I'm tired of hearing that everyone is "entitled" to health care, that a national system of health care is the best answer, etc., etc. It's a service like anything else; turning over responsibility for oneself to any other entity, and participating in the insurance system, which pools all the customers' money, are the first steps to ending up with strangers deciding one should die for "utilitarian" reasons.

 
At December 02, 2008 , Blogger Don Nelson said...

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At December 02, 2008 , Blogger Don Nelson said...

Lanthe, fertility treatment is the last thing Obama and Planned Parenthood mean when they use the words "reproductive services." They use those words as a code word/euphemism for abortion, contraception to teens behind their parents backs and etc. Obama means abortion as well as condoms, birth control pills and etc. Considering the context of who he was speaking to-the nation's leading provider and promoter of abortion, there's little chance he meant anything other than abortion and contraceptives.

 
At December 02, 2008 , Blogger Unknown said...

Don, what you just said is what I meant about what Obama et al. really mean.

The eupemism "reproductive services" to what it really means is rather analogous to what "right to die" is to murder.

As for insurance, if I'm in France, and their system is a somewhat socialistic one with excellent health care for everyone (which is what I've heard; correct me if I'm wrong), fine; that's France. But this is the U.S., which is supposed to be a free country, not in the European mold or even the European-influenced Canadian mold. If I don't want to carry health insurance at all, that's my business; since when does the government have the right to tell me I have no right to choose whether I want to carry health insurance or not? It's one thing to have to pay taxes, so that we can have a military, libraries, etc. to protect our freedoms; this falls into another category. Messing with people's individual rights leads to people losing the right to live.

 
At December 03, 2008 , Blogger K-Man said...

An individual mandate as the insurance companies would want is fraught with potential constitutional problems. This isn't like requiring car drivers to carry insurance, as driving is a privilege and no one is "required" to drive or own a vehicle. Simply put, for starters, a government mandate that everybody buy something regardless of ability to pay is the very definition of a poll tax, which is generally prohibited in the body of the Constitution. The Tenth Amendment will get in the way as well.

 

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