China Orders Forced Abortion of Viable Fetus
China is a true tyranny. And now, it has ordered a Muslim woman to abort her viable fetus or face the loss of her home. From the story:
Chinese authorities have ordered Arzigul Tursun, who is 26 weeks pregnant, to abort her unborn child because she has two other children. She is under watch at the Municipal Watergate Hospital in Yining in the Xinjiang Autonomous Region, which is populated heavily with Uighurs, a Turkic-speaking Muslim minority. Supporters are concerned a forced abortion at such a late stage could threaten Arzigul's health.China has had 400 million abortions in the last three decades, many of them coerced or forced. That's more than the population of the USA. Infanticide of girl babies has been widely reported, pushed by the one child policy. It also been credibly accused of killing Falun Gong and selling their organs--although the charge has not been proven conclusively. We do know it has killed other prisoners and then sold their organs. China also has an explicit eugenics policy in place. Then there's Tibet...
According to the Washington-based Uyghur Human Rights Project, Arzigul and her husband, Nurmemet, fled their village when she became pregnant, but returned after officials warned their house and property would be seized if Arzigul did not have an abortion. "We considered our two girls," said Nurmemet. "If the house and properties were taken away, how would they live? So my wife came back and went to the hospital." US Representative Christopher Smith, a New Jersey Republican, wrote to China's ambassador to Washington, Zhou Wenzhong, last week to demand the forced abortion not be carried out.
And we keep them in business by using the country as our manufacturing base. Reminds me of the Northern merchants who fought against the fight against slavery because of the money they made from the Southern slave holders.
Labels: China. Forced Abortion. Single China Policy. Eugenics.
posted by Wesley J. Smith @ 8:36 PM
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22 Comments:
This will be taxpayer funded in the Obama administration and we'll get more of these atrocities. GWB cut off funding to the UN Population Fund (UNFPA) because it funded the China One Child Policy. Powell's state department found the China abortion policy in violation of the Kemp-Kasten anti-coercion bill which said no funding to any groups involved in coercive-forced abortions. Obama will reinstate that funding. He may claim not to support what the Chinese will do with the money-and maybe he doesn't, but he'll reinstate the funding and it will be used for coercive/forced abortions. Steve Mosher and the Population Research Institute know the most about this-www.pop.org.
Show hows wrong a choice of words is the term, "A woman's right to choose."
How awful. Is Amnesty International doing anything about this, and can we help somehow?
ianthe, don't confuse this horrible situation with the U.S. setup. As much as you may abhor Roe vs. Wade, it was about whether our Constitution allows the federal government to regulate reproduction in ANY way. The same decision that legalized voluntary abortions also blocks government-forced abortions, sterilizations, and contraception in the U.S.
The problem in China, and everywhere else to a lesser degree, is to find an effective and ethical way to control human population.
Uh, no, Padraig, Roe was about whether _states_ were going to be allowed to regulate abortion. Please, let's not spread disinformation.
Thanks for the report, Wesley. I'm always astonished at the fact that liberals want to fund the UNFPA despite things like this. They talk about "choice" but they don't mean it. They care about the choice to murder your child but not about women like this in China.
Actually, I don't think that population control is needed in any form, and certainly never this one. If the government in China would let in some capitalism, and let people cross the borders easier, the population would manage itself. There is plenty of work and money that could be had in China if the Government would quit squashing it's own people.
Sorry to digress into economics, but it seems to come into play in the discussion.
Anyway, back from Roe v. Wade...
When "Justice For All" (a pro-life group) came to the U of Houston campus with their oversized triangular display (as opposed to the small one they brought in the second time), we were all wearing our Feminist pins - the on-campus feminist group was handing them out. Some of the leaders were amused to see us wearing them and thanked us for supporting women's rights, but they were being ironic until the gent who was running the pro-life display told them about the numbers of girls being aborted overseas. What we really need is a feminist leadership that looks back on the work of such greats as Susan B. Anthony and others, who all believed (as I do now) that if women feel compelled to have abortions for any reason, something was seriously disordered in society. These are the kinds of women who need to step up to the plate and get our voices heard overseas.
Since I'm a Catholic Republican chick, I've been told it's not possible for me to be a feminist. I find that sad. I think anyone who's a feminist is someone who wants women to have equal dignity and fair treatment both under the law and in society, and we don't have enough of that anywhere.
Don Nelson's comment is deeply troubling to me. Your post clearly lays it all out much more fairly.
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Lydia, Roe v Wade was a U.S. Supreme Court case, and it overturned both federal and state abortion laws.
Michael, how are my comments are unfair? Should American taxpayers be funding a program (China One Child Policy through UNFPA) that includes the forced abortion described in the SHS post? Of course not. But we will when Obama is king. He should file human rights complaints against China instead. What's troubling is that American taxpayers are going to be participants in this when Obama becomes president and restores the funding (cut off by GWB), or as Rep. Carolyn Maloney, says, if he just follows the will of the Congress in doing so. She says UNFPA will be funded. She says it will be $40 million.
We would have been funding this last year if the Brownback Amendment to the Fiscal Year 2008 State-Foreign Operations Appropriations didn't pass.
We have so many laws in this world to knock of our own children and yet groups such as PETA & HSUS are getting laws passed to make free range chickens and pigs more comfortable.
Dear Son of God , if you are intending on returning to this earth, please do so quickly!! It is becoming the Devil's stomping ground and a regular infant killing field though the chickens are safe.
Donnie -
Amen. I actually have caught myself hoping that the Final Judgment comes soon, just so I can finally feel some peace.
If these atrocities continue, I think it just might come sooner than later (although we've been saying that for 2000 years, maybe this time...)
This whole discussion validates the belief that americans are anti-women - this isnt about "murdering children"; since when has a fetus been considered a fully formed human, other than religious fundamentalists? Since women were given the (often resinded) option of controlling their bodies and how they wish to reproduce, people are against it because most people can't handle the thought that women can made independent decisions. Im not pro-abortion for birth control, but start doing something about the unwanted kids on the streets of america (and central america, where they are used as target practice by the cops) BEFORE you mouth off religious platitudes and create negativity for a new president...I wonder if you would say the same things if he was white? Give him an opportunity to undo the bigoted damage that the last president did in the eyes of the rest of the world before you wish for Armageddon (and be careful what you wish for).
Some points that you seem to be missing Vixis. As a woman it is incumbent upon you to make sure that you control conception doesn't happen. Not a hard concept to realize. Simply stating that a fetus isn't a child is like saying that a child isn't a human because it doesn't have it's adult brain fully formulated. It is a cop out to pretend that a human life in the womb is not a fully operational child because that fetus is earmarked for greater glory then as a aborted life. Hitler made independent decisions where he figured lives that were repugnant to him could be snuffed out. King Herod made independent decisions that all children under two years of age were a threat to him. Thus the killing of all children identified as being born under the Star of Bethlehem were killed to facilitate Herod's goal of absolute power for him and his off spring. Obama has already voted to kill children born that had been earmarked for abortion but survived the ordeal. Do you have any idea how difficult it is for a human being to birth a life as a Doctor or nurse and then snuff out that life because a head of state demands such actions??? If meeting Armageddon means the end of the Devil's Handmaidens and the New Beginnings of Jesus Reign then bring it on God.
BTW , quite a few atheists & agnostics don't agree with killing or devaluing human exceptualism either. As for your racist remarks , they are to childish to value with a comment other then point out how your reverse racism taints your argument.
vixis: Your perspectives are welcome here, but not unwarranted claims of racism against those with whom you disagree. How condescending to our president elect that criticisms of his positions are depicted as racist. That kind of demogoguery may work elsewhere, but it will not be tolerated here.
Also, to all: The post is about forced abortion. Let's keep it there. Thanks.
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It was partly just a play on words... I didn't say I abhor Roe v. Wade, and, in fact, I have never even been particularly fond of babies, not that I advocate harming them at any stage of development or anything, they just don't interest me....My position on the issue of abortion is that it should not be a matter of law, one way or the other, and I think its being one at all opens the door to the possibility laws that endanger those who have already been born...The federal laws Roe overturned and precluded were unconstitutional in the first place and the government must not be intrusive...An ethical and logical means of population control always has existed, and China hardly has created a new one and only has managed to prove that it lacks the necessary humanity to be qualified even to attempt such an undertaking....China also isn't very nice to dogs and cats....
...If indeed Roe did that, which I don't remember now, and the whole thing simply shouldn't have been a matter of law one way or other in the first place, and in any event the states as well as the federal government and any other kind of government should stick their noses out of the issue too. I think it should in China too, and I prefer not to buy anything from there and wish the U.S. would not trade with them...and that someone could rescue their dogs and cats...at least the people have more of a fighting chance against that government of theirs than dogs and cats have against the Chinese...Nixon's feet were held to the fire for the wrong thing.
Actually Ian::::: In my humble opinion,there is more hue & cry about animal welfare abuses in China by North America then there is or ever will be about their destruction of human lives in the womb or out of the womb.
My nephew was delivered in an emergency procedure to save his mother's life at 25 weeks. He is two. This baby (Seeing my very premature nephew in an incubator has confirmed my prior belief that that's what it is, despite the fact that the law defines it as a fetus) is 26 weeks.
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